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Who should be in the first class of Lizzy winners?
Poll ended at Mon May 07, 2012 9:00 pm
Kaz 24%  24%  [ 13 ]
Virgil 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Warlord 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Funaki 7%  7%  [ 4 ]
Matt Morgan 15%  15%  [ 8 ]
Judge Jeff Jones 9%  9%  [ 5 ]
Bull Buchanan 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Devon Dudley 11%  11%  [ 6 ]
Robert Gibson 9%  9%  [ 5 ]
Linda McMahon 16%  16%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 55
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:00 pm 
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Ladies and Gentlemen, our committee has selected a ballot of ten names for potential winners. Three people will be the first to receive this award. Much debate was had to select ten names they we feel are worthy. Anyone on this ballot had to get a 100% vote from the committee. We all agree that these are ten people who totally devoid of any charisma or wrestling skill of any kind. Also we tried to avoid people who only had short runs as they may not have had a real chance. We also agree that to be up for this award either your career has to have ended or you have to have been in wrestling at least 10 years. We all agree that's ok to not be very good when you're young and new. Please feel free to yell at each other or us about where you stand in this debate.

The nominees for the 1st ever Ms. Elizabeth award for excellence in the field of uselessness in professionalized wrestling are...............

1. Kaz - Kaz was the person who inspired this award. He truly epitomizes uselessness. As Jack said "he could have never been born and it wouldn't make any difference to wrestling." Yet he's been around forever and continues to receive chance after chance.

2. Virgil / Vincent - Virgil was another early pick. As Ultimate Beef said "a black, male Liz." All he had to do was stand around and he didn't even do that very good.

3. Warlord - Warlord was possibly the first of the gay shape generation. Not only was he terrible but he opened the doors for equally terrible people to have long and prosperous careers.

4. Funaki - Funaki had a long, long, long WWE career. And during that career he never at any point did anything relevant or exciting. His biggest accomplishment was being Taka's tag team partner.

5. Matt Morgan - Essentially a 6' 10'' Kaz except he's gotten even more chances and even bigger pushes.

6. Judge Jeff Jones - This where we broke the rules. Judge Jeff Jones was not around wrestling very long but wow, he was awful. In his short time he proved without a doubt that he completely and utterly useless in every way imaginable. He was a manager that made you think less of the guy he managed. That's never good.

7. Bull Buchanan - Bull Buchanan is like Funaki in that he stuck around for awhile but never really did anything. He had countless gimmicks and none of them were ever good. The best thing he ever did was just be in the Right to Censor. But he was far and away the least important person in that group.

8. D-Von Dudley / Brother Devon - It is without question that the Dudley Boyz were one of the greatest tag teams of all time. However, Bubba Dudley and any other wrestler would have been just as great. Bubba was a major highlight of ECW, D-von just happened to be there. And now in 2012 the team has split. Bubba is doing the best stuff of his entire career and D-von once again is just there.

9. Robert Gibson - Robert Gibson much like D-von was part of one of the greatest tag teams of all time. But he was not what was great about that team. But at least D-von got the tables. Gibson just stood there and waited for the hot tag. Ricky Morton would go out there and be one of the greatest wrestlers to ever live and Gibson would just wait around for the finish. Buck said it best when he called him "Robert 'the fifth ring post' Gibson."

10. Linda McMahon - Not much to say about Linda. If you watch wrestling you understand why she's here. It was between her and Dixie for this spot. We decided Linda was more useless.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:07 pm 
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I went with Kaz, Gibson and Linda. But, it was a hard choice.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:12 pm 
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Kaz and Morgan really have done nothing at least most of the others have done some sort of angle or storyline that stood out


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:04 pm 
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Please add Mark Madden, Please. No one's more worthless. PLEASE!

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I wouldn't even say Mark Madden is the most useless announcer ever. You have weird picks, Mad Man.

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Kaz is the only one on the list that could have an exciting match to watch, he might be a bit bland personality wise but he is a good wrestler that should count for something

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Exciting to who? The IWC who jizz their pants over stupid flips and dives for no reason? Anyone can do that! If you a spot monkey that even the IWC faithful don't love you must truly suck.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:16 am 
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If Kaz was a worse wrestler he probably wouldn't be on this list. He's just totally average at everything. He doesn't stand out in anyway. But I also wouldn't say he's a good wrestler. He can go through the motions of what could be a good match. But he never dose anything to make you care about him.

Also for the record I went with Kaz, Funaki, and Devon.

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Liz doesn't deserve this Duane. You should be ashamed.

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Team Ninja wrote:
I wouldn't even say Mark Madden is the most useless announcer ever. You have weird picks, Mad Man.

I can debate anybody on Mark Madden being the worst announcer who ever lived. No one is worse. NO ONE.

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I liked Madden. I think he is better than Cole, Booker T, Taz, Tenay (currently), Matt Striker and probably others.

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Jack wrote:
I liked Madden. I think he is better than Cole, Booker T, Taz, Tenay (currently), Matt Striker and probably others.

Mark Madden was loud, annoying, unfunny, second-rate and belittled the product. He wouldn't shut up even. He constantly commented on everything in the worst way. Cole, Booker T, Taz, Tenay, and Matt Striker stink. But no is worse than Madden. Not even Mike Adamle, Eric Bischoff or Coachman. He deserves the Lizzy award. If he doesn't win then this is worse than Bruno not making it in the WWE HOF.

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I liked it when he used to yell Fly Fat Ass Fly when Hugh Morrus did the moonsault. I just think he had the misfortune of following Bobby Heenan.

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Spec_Sun wrote:
Liz doesn't deserve this Duane. You should be ashamed.


Don't be such a fag about it. It's all in fun.

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Team Ninja wrote:
Spec_Sun wrote:
Liz doesn't deserve this Duane. You should be ashamed.


Don't be such a fag about it. It's all in fun.


Yeah, it is all in fun... and it points out her glaring uselessness

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i voted Kaz & Funaki

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Man Kaz is killing the voting. But I find it weird Virgil is the only guy without any votes.

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i dont think Virgil was useless, i thought he had his charm up until they tried to push him.

Warlord- always liked him

Matt Morgan - too early to tell

Judge Jeff Jones - so unmemorable I dont see why he would be on the list at all, but yeah a very bad character, a Palmer Cannon type here

Bull Buchanan- nah, RoC and Japan give him some legitimacy

Devon Dudley - nah, 15 time tag team champ... silly to be on this list

Robert Gibson- nope, doesnt deserve it, liked the guy, was a great worker

Linda McMahon- no Linda, no WWE. Vince is probably as reliable as Paul Heyman with the money, Linda has kept that bat-shit company together IMO as much as anyone. On screen, perfect cardboard cut-out, I love her to be honest

hence I use only 2 of my votes. Funaki really, you could argue in Japan he was good, but he was here so long and he never did anything of note. i would have up and left if I was him, i guess Funaki isnt a mark for himself

Kaz, yeah, even in Pro Wrestling Guerrilla I didnt like him, just so bland.

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The only person I disagree with is the one it is named after, Elizabeth. I think everyone else is perfect. I would have named the award The Bob Holly is it was up to me ;). But, it's all in fun.

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I would say all the people on this list were better than Elizabeth. I will never sway on this.

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Jack wrote:
The only person I disagree with is the one it is named after, Elizabeth. I think everyone else is perfect. I would have named the award The Bob Holly is it was up to me ;). But, it's all in fun.


r u saying anyone as Devon Dudley?

any black dude? no way a white dude.

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Taso The Greek wrote:
Jack wrote:
The only person I disagree with is the one it is named after, Elizabeth. I think everyone else is perfect. I would have named the award The Bob Holly is it was up to me ;). But, it's all in fun.


r u saying anyone as Devon Dudley?

any black dude? no way a white dude.

I dunno what this means.

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Robert Gibson and Dvon can't go on the list imo. There legacies should keep them safe. I like Kaz matches like that one where he wrestled...uh...uhmm....i remember liking a kaz match once...


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Well Gibson just barely beat Terry Taylor for the last spot. So be grateful.

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Taso The Greek wrote:

Judge Jeff Jones - so unmemorable I dont see why he would be on the list at all, but yeah a very bad character, a Palmer Cannon type here



I fought pretty hard for Judge Jeff Jones. I was a big mark for Mike Awesome. Jones just made his whole character worse. He didn't need a manager. He just needed to go out and be kick ass. I really don't think Jones had anything going on. His whole character made no sense not just for awesome but for ECW in general. I never understood why he was around.

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