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It's not my fault WWE ran through it so quick. The Nexus beginning was awesome, most people loved. I thought it was shit by the time Punk was running it, in fact I think you did too.

Besides it wasn't named by one person, it was voted on by the listeners. Not everyone who vted the best voted it as the worst. In fact I think most people either voted it as best or worst. I know Hurricane used to win best and worst character in the Observer awards too. Cena right now could be voted favorite and most hated.

Brodus Clay could easily be voted best and worst new character. Some people love him some people hate him.

First off I don't listen to the observer or read the observer so lets get that stretch out of the way dispite this desperate need for some to tie me into them. Also why would i take say this message board's opinion on wrestling serious? Let see
1) Nikhil and others argued that TNA wrestlers were paid well even after I proved that you could make more working at Burger King as a manager. Then a couple weeks later we saw the Jesse Neal Foodstamps tweet.
2) Probably a good 60% of this message board argued that Ric flair wasn't with TNA because he was desperate for money but because he loved the business. 6 month's later a Huge article comes out basically blasting Flair as a irresponsible desperate manchild who has blown his fortune and was working for TNA for the money. Why didn't I bring this evidence to the debate? Oh wait I did including showing a actual video of Ric Flair ripping TNA apart and saying he'd never work for them and the Genius that is Vann said video evidence wasn't proof.
3) Probably all but 3 people on this message say they should turn John Cena heel despite not being able to answer the simple question of who's going to replace, and who would he and the new number one faces feud with after.
4)Spec Sun Swore that Randy Orton was a reasonable #1 Face replacement for John Cena and six months later he went on to have a dead title run on Smackdown as the Number One Face and almost reached Impact Level ratings.
5) I think it was a good 3 or 4 years of being told I was an idiot because I said TNA would be crazy to move to Mondays and when they finally did all you sat there with your thumbs up your asses completely in a daze as to why it failed.
6) I was told i wasn't being fair when I correctly stated that Eric Bishoff and Hulk Hogan would do nothing for TNA and were overrated and I remeber people starting to try and claim that Eric wasn't as responsible for WCW's failures as people made him out to be.
7) This isn't a knock on Jack but during the Wrestling awards in 2010 this is the same show that had Teh Nexus angle voted the best and worst angle of the year
8) Now this wasn't In Your Head's board but I know some members were involved when They gave me shit for rightfully saying the America's Most Wanted wasn't a top 10 tag team
9) Lets see Vann thinks that every match results matters despite no evidence to that point
10) I've seen multiple members refere to wrestling as a sport I mean do I need to say more?

I could keep rolling but i hope you get my point as to why I don't take members of this message board or any for that matter very serious. People are over reactive morons who don't understand the basic concepts of storylines and building characters. They lack complete perspective. Even in your response Afro you made my point that your jaded. You said both companies should be trying ot goad you back into their products and fans like you. Why? Now TNA I can make an argument but WWE? They are a financially successful company that has learned to brand its product and characters to have clear enjoyment of their fanbase. WWE will likely have a 400 Million Dollar Revenue in 2011 and they should be concerned with people like you why?

But, it might not even be the same people. Let's say 200 people voted. All it meant was the majority had picked it the best and the majority picked it the worst. Doesn't mean the same people said it's the best and worst. If the New Nexus was after, then it probably was it was a polarizing angle that had people either loving it or hating it. Just like Funkasaurus or Cena, or lots of other examples.

So you're more concerned with a company making money than your own personal enjoyment of the product. I wish I could get off on WWE's share price like you, then maybe their product would become a lot more enjoyable to watch.

It's not the same people. Some people said they liked it and some hated it. I don't like Funkasaurus you do, so that means we are goofballs by this logic.

No what makes it goofy is you saying you donn't like the gimmick and seem to have no concept of the fact that if they made him this vader like heel he'd been lower on the card and probably lost in the shuffle within two weeks because of how the roster played out.

As for the Nexus angle no its stupid that in the same breath you have an poll where a group of people the same group of people for both questions called it best and worst. Which how Nexus was even on anyone's worst poll is beyond me but still it was.

So basically I blew your stupid theory of the water and your back to trying to talk about me. The financial point I was making you simpleton is your saying WWE should focus their product towards people like you and I"m saying if they are clearly a financially stable company that has a clear group of fans that like them than why should they be concerned about you?

I enjoy wrestling but I'm not afraid to use money to make my point because at the end of the day I don't see wrestling as a sport. I see it as entertainment and realize its still a business wihch clearly people like you don't

I just went and found my tally of the awards.

Best angle had tons of different write ins, in fact Nexus won with only 13% of the total votes. Worst had 36% of the votes to Nexus. So the same people didn't vote for it as best and worst. Even if all people who voted it as the best also said it was the worst then 13% of votes did. Which, I know they didn't. I'd be surprised if more than 1 or 2 people voted it best and worst, if anyone at all did.

one I wouldn't be suprised if it was more than 1 or 2 and two its still a group of people who voted in the same awards that it was the best angle of the year and worst and in the concept of my post which is why I don't take people who talk about it seriously its a perfect example. Its a group of people who in one poll liked and hated the same angle.

So if 2 people thought something was the best thing and the worst thing that means everyone who listens to the show is a fool ?

So you are the same as Wacko Bob and Jose. They have both posted here, therefore everyone ever here is batshit crazy.

Jack its not even if they agreed its the fact that in one poll the people who participated said Nexus was both the best and worst. Thats a representation of the people who took the poll. Also thats 1 out of 10 very valid points a I made about people on this message board.

See you're the fucking simpleton because I'm not saying they should concentrate the entire product on me, what I'm saying is and since you love ratings so much there are at least 200k fans in the UK who don't watch any wrestling, and at least 5 million viewers in the US who no longer watch wrestling, figures off the Monday Night Wars, hell at least a million fans who have tapered off wrestling in the last 10 years since, I'm not saying WWE or TNA should try to appease everyone but they should at the very least be trying to goad these people back into watching wrestling on a regular basis, its what an Entertainment Business should try to do, they should be trying to bring in news fans and if they once had a 7.0 during the Monday Night Wars they should have some kind of traction on getting these viewers back, its not even smart business it's BASIC business, we could argue these kind of numbers all fucking day if you'd like as WWE is not nearly as profitable as it could be. Hell when WWE first entered the stock market it was trading in $14 and up on a regular basis now it trades in around $10, which if you look at previous figures is half. So yes WWE does make $400 million but it could be making a lot more if you wanted to argue figures, the problem is when I talk to you I'm not discussing figures, there's a reason for I DON'T OWN SHARES IN THE WWE!!! so what does it matter to ME when you say they made $400 million last year, I don't give a shit I thought the beginning of the Nexus angle was great I wasn't getting out my calculator and saying oh this'll make WWE 20 million, I was saying I personally enjoyed this and I watched to find out what would happen next. I find any criticism you have of TNA invalid because you don't choose to watch the product you choose to base your reviews off someone else's opinion of the product because all you do is read reviews rather than sitting and watching the product and choosing whether you like it or don't like it.

5) Again Afro you brought up Money.

Does that make people who voted in the 2008 US Election idiots, because they voted half for one guy and half for the other.

Um when 38% I believe was the final half voted for a man who wanted to continue the policies of the Bush Adminstration that helped tank the Economy of not only the United States but the most of the World and thought that Sarah Palin was a reasonable canidate for Vice President. So yes they were idiots

and dude you are the dumbest mother fucker on the planet. The money is an example of the fact that there is a group that is clearly happy with the product. Its not about the money.

So because there's a group which likes the product, it means WWE should neglect those who dislike it or some who hate it? and what does money have to do with personal opinion, so the next time you say you dislike something the WWE does I'll just point out the fact it did a 3.0 so your opinion is irrelevant.

Afro see thats why your a fucking idiot 90% of the time when I use ratings, or buyrates, or whatever its because I'm not talking about opinion I'm talking about facts. Take CM Punk I've given you reasons why I personally dislike the title reign as I've stated the character is unlikable which is a problem for a face he comes off like a snarky ass hole and in the ring his comebacks suck and he doesn't work very well as a face to make me care about his matches. Though seem like opinions ot me. However if someone wants to tell CM Punk is great for WWE like most of you have I have no problem showing the facts of business numbers to prove he doesnt.

As for you no they shouldn't concern themselves with you if you have a clear majority that likes WWE and enjoys the product for what it is than it should tell you that your the problem not them

Raw was watched by an average of 4.11 million viewers last week, 111.3 million people watched the Superbowl, clear majority is against the WWE. I can use figures to discredit your point of view, saying CM Punk is great is an opinion, saying CM Punk has boosted PPV buys would be a place for you to insert the fact that he hasn't.

I give you questions because I know you can't answer them. Which is to make you realize I'm not just throwing shit out. When I say where is TNA going? trust me I have a back up ready to go because I know they don't have a solid plan which is not a good idea for any promotion let alone one that is currently highlighted by 3 guys who were old in the 90s