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One you found the show horrible but your supporting basically watching what you already saw good call.

Secondly it didn't bump the ratings and the 20k in buys is lovely but considering WWE's ECW show got deep 200k in buys thats not really an impressive feat. YOu had 14,000 more fans watch than you usual. Big deal, flash forward 3 months how many fans stayed around for EV2.0? Absolutely no one.

seriously this goes for anyone who wants to argue with me about why these hasbeens should continue to limp into another decade of living in the past please go watch Hardcore Justice again and tell me what about that show makes you think any of these guys belong in the ring for another event

eh, I recall ecw back when it was a promotion (as well as wccw, jcp, ccw, mid-south/uwf and way too many others to count). I watched it on tv though never get a chance to see it live because of where I lived.

To me there is nothing wrong with a nostalgia show...heck I'm a big supporter of the NWA Legends Fanfests and as several who have attended can tell you Action Mike Jackson stole the show in Atlanta and he's older then in his 40's and is in better ring shape then a lot of people who are in wwe, tna, etc

If people like the product and support the product even as a 1 shot then let them enjoy it. When and if they don't support it then so be it. Like it or not, people like and support what they want to. It's the old axiom of supply and demand. When they demand finally dies, then so will all the ecw related shows.

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I have often said, as it relates to the reunion shows geared towards the ECW faithful.
How can we miss something, if it never really goes away?.

I was a huge suporter of the original ECW, to the point I went to great lengths to import ECW shows back in the early to late 90s, as my country was not only void of ECW broadcasts, but wrestling in general.

My problem is, the bulk of the ECW revival shows come across as a collection of guys and girls, who had not managed to build onto their careers after ECW closed down and as the years roll on they all begin to become almost parodys of themselves and in the process begin to merely phone in their ring work and basically hurt their cause in the process.

Since ECW closed its doors 11 years ago we've had a steady stream of reunions/ rebranding/ ECW inspired promotions populating the wrestling world, making it harder to actually get worked up about the latest ECW revival.

Take Shane Douglas' almost comical attempts at gaining media for the upcoming show. Turning up to a WWE event under a mask and proceeding to rip off his mask and reveal his identity to a largely dis interested crowd... not to mention doing so just as the in ring action reached its conclution, thus dening himself a sizeable amount of attention. Well, its not really setting the wrestling world on fire.

I hope they manage to make a nice couple of pay days for themselves with this reunion, but even by adding some current talent to the package will do nothing in the long run.

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I watched ECW from the first time I saw them on a satellite feed as Eastern Championship Wrestling in the fall of 1993 to the year it closed down in 2001. It holds a special place in my heart as a wrestling fan, especially to see that company grow as it did over that course of time. I was a subscriber to the short-lived ECW Magazine published by Bill Apter's World of Wrestling Magazine from 1999 to 2000. I miss the years watching ECW Hardcore TV every Sunday morning at 1 am..... sometimes 3 am depending when the old A1 Channel would broadcast it. Those were some great times to be a wrestling fan. 1998 ECW was my favorite year from them. Taz feuding with The Triple Threat, RVD and Sabu as the tag team champions, Masato Tanaka and the late Mike Awesome bringing their FMW feud over to the states, Dudley Boyz heeling like no other team had in decades, etc. I can go on and on about that year in ECW. Just some damn good times to be a fan.

Let the negativity subside. People genuinely loved this company, and it's a testament to its legacy that it has managed to interest new fans after its initial folding....... We've seen bad and good reunion shows since, but I always find pleasure discussing it. That really was a special era.

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Me liking it or not and if it helped TNA are 2 completely different things. I never praised it anywhere. But, I can't pretend it didn't interest people just because I did not like it.

It is a pretty good number considering most of the people on the PPV are not WWE regulars and not big money guys. So they improved PPV buys with older guys and guys not on TV for years. Sounds like it worked pretty well to me.

The initial interest was there. People enjoy seeing these guys. More people bought them on TNA PPV than buy ones with guys making $500,000 a year. To say 3 months later no one cared is silly. EV2.0 was this faction of a few guys. What TNA did with them determined if people stuck aroundor not.

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Come on, Jack. Everybody knows that anyone who was ever a fan of ECW was in the Hammerstein Ballroom during the first One Night Stand. And the only reason people bought ECW DVDs, chanted ECW, or even care about it today is because Vince McMahon told them to like it.

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I never watched it. Watched a few youtube videos of some matches if this was a company at this present time I wouldnt like it,however I did enjoy the WWE shows, I was at the TNA one it was pretty bad but the EV2 kinda helped boost the ratings for a short while. So yeah like I said its a legacy that will never die and truly remembered.

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20,000 is not an impressive number its pretty pathetic. The Heroes of Wrestling show drew I believe 39k give or take a couple of thousands and 90% of that show were guys who havne't been on TV in 10 years.

There is some interest left in it great who is that interest? Which is my point. Are they the original fans? or are they people who claim to be original fans? Either way again you still have 40 year old men who talk about how cutting edge ECW was and yet have done more to make ECW into a cheesy joke than WWE and TNA could ever have tried to

Everything is relative. Compared to other TNA numbers it was good.

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Why even care about the fan-base? Who cares if they are original ECW fans? All I know is people bought tickets to see the Extreme Reunion. Even you said there was still interest, so why care if they were "original" ECW fans or not. Seems like you just need something to bitch about.

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No I'm just sick of people acting like its funny or cool to see these guys bleed all over themselves, wrestling when they physically shouldn't be, and trying to act like this is really ECW because its not. Its nothing more than desperate men bastardizing something that was once popular. i mean if you don't think they are desperate then why did all of these guys work Hardcore Justice for 250 bucks and then complain about how low the pay was.

I just don't see why you give a shit, and if they want to work for $250 that's their choice.

And you know a lot about TNA for always trashing them and saying you don't care.

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Obviously, people are willing to pay their money to see these guys perform again and relive the great atmosphere that surrounds these nostalgic ECW reunion shows. At the end of the day, there's much interest about the concept and both the consumers and performers recognize that. I don't see one problem with that at all. Sounds like people just bitching to act like rebels.

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Because its pathetic! People wonder why wrestling has guys dead at 40 and under so often and why cases like Scott Hall happen crap like this is why. You don't see Bo Jackson putting on some shoulder pads at 49 years old saying I still have a shot, I don't see Charles Barkley putting back on his shorts for one more run, I don't see Nolan Ryan putting back on the Glove. Why? Because they are in the reality that its over and it would be sad to continue to try and be going back out there and acting as if they still have any shot of being relevant again

First of all, Scott Hall is a bad example. Scott has drug and alcohol problems because he killed a guy in self defense. That would be a hard thing to get over.

And as far as other sports, they aren't pro-wrestling, totally different kind of breed. And the pay scale for those athletes is way more, I don't see wrestlers who make $5,000,000 a year. So I don't accept your comparisons.

I do however think our meaning of not giving a shit differs. If I don't give a shit about something, I just ignore it. You on the other hand rant and rave like a lunatic about buy rates and attendance and ratings.

I don't see where you are a fan of wrestling, sounds to me like you are a researcher of buy rates and so forth.

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XT is the biggest mark for TNA. He can't help but to chime in on every aspect of the company.

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Maybe because some people enjoy that type of wrestling?

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So some people think its cool to see 40 and 50 year old men bleeding all over themselves so a bunch of socially retarded losers can chant ECW? Thats kinda scary sad, and if you enjoy that you really should look in the mirror and think about your personal lives

Yeah Scott Hall being in the Wrestling business has nothing to do with his problems. Next your going to say is Abraham Lincoln wasn't shot because he freed the slaves.

Your right though other athletes made a lot of money and had differnt breeds of sport. Yet though athletes didn't need to blow their bodies to hell late into their 40s for 250 bucks a night thats pathetic.

Again Boxman why do you fucking care? I find it hysterical for a guy who talks about me so much you clearly are obsessed with me for some reason. I've made my reason very clear why I have a problem with this show. You just can't accept them because your idiot or trying to pick a fight with me.

Fucking Abe had it coming. Walking around pretending to be NWA champion. I spit on his grave. #Clinton4Ever

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XT, you're so easily excitable. It's hilarious

I never said some of Scott Hall' s problems weren't from wrestling. He did say that he was already doing drugs and drinking heavily before he got into the business.

And throwing a ball and getting thrown around a ring aren't comparable.

You are such a baby every time I post something. You say idiotic things and act like I'm the only one who argues with you. Every thread you are arguing with somebody. Quit being such a cry baby because you say stupid shit and I call you on it. If I think it's stupid I have the right to say it. I'll let you get back to watching TNA now.

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jesus christ XT why even waste your time posting if you dont care and hate this ECW reunion and all the rest, I mean, why waste your time? your such a fucking loser and a troll.

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i don't see what liking to the occaisional colour ;has to do with my personal life . i hardly ever blade anymore . all jokes aside the hardcore aspect of ecw was not really it's be all end all i'd be fine if they chilled on it

Scott Hall, Abraham Lincoln and Slaves. Analogies are not your strength XT. Stick to using body parts as insults.

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people don't get drug problems due to one factor , scot halls drug problem as well as anyone else's most likely come when factors converge. i'm fairly certain he'd still have problem if he stayed a bouncer