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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:07 pm 
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Because they decided to do it this way. And we don't know how it's going to play out going into Destination-X.


yeah why give fans a reason to want to pay to see something. Just leave a question because we all know that TNA never burns fans with suprises


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Because the Hulkster is the match maker...


which once again deletes the conflict to build up a reason that these two are fighting. Its just well Hogan decided, its not Roode is avoding the guy, or mocks him, or Aries does something to Roode to get the match made its just Hogan plays Howie Mandel and asked Deal or NO Deal


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Because they decided to do it this way. And we don't know how it's going to play out going into Destination-X.


yeah why give fans a reason to want to pay to see something. Just leave a question because we all know that TNA never burns fans with suprises


Again, you are talking about a different writing team that has been putting together some good shows the past couple of months.

And you don't know what is going to happen the next couple of weeks.

Does everything have to conform to the way you would "Book" it or it's wrong? Or if it isn't the way you see WWE booking it it's wrong? This is how they are doing it, and since you don't watch, you shouldn't even give a shit. (Which we all know you do)

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Again, you are talking about a different writing team that has been putting together some good shows the past couple of months.

And you don't know what is going to happen the next couple of weeks.

Does everything have to conform to the way you would "Book" it or it's wrong? Or if it isn't the way you see WWE booking it it's wrong? This is how they are doing it, and since you don't watch, you shouldn't even give a shit. (Which we all know you do)


I want TNA succeed, thats what you don't get. I just won't blindly blow them when they are setting themselves up for failure and I'm not talking about a different writing team. TNA's writing team created a suprise on Thursday and how did that go? They booked one of the worst swerves and storylines in the past two years which for TNA is saying a lot.

Heres is what I do know, now the storyline isn't Austin Aries is stepping up to take on Robert Roode and Roode mocks him or whatever. The stoyrline is Hulk Hogan is making him give up his title to challenge Robert Roode. So your conflict is about giving up a belt, not the actual feud. I also know that this big angle which should deliver an actual watchable Main Event opened Impact so AJ and Dixie could run the worst storyline of the year and you could throw 8 short matches.


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Because the Hulkster is the match maker...


which once again deletes the conflict to build up a reason that these two are fighting. Its just well Hogan decided, its not Roode is avoding the guy, or mocks him, or Aries does something to Roode to get the match made its just Hogan plays Howie Mandel and asked Deal or NO Deal


This would be easier if you watched...but...

There is conflict... Roode has mocked Aries as a "Paper Champion" and said that he is making the biggest mistake of his life trying to challenge for the World Heavyweight Championship. Roode said that he is going to embarrass him because he is more than just an X-Division Wrestler.

The reason for the match is for Aries to prove himself as a main event player.

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Then why do the belt angle I just don't understand why it can't just be Roode and aries and it seems like you could do this whole storyline without making it about the belt being given up


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Then why do the belt angle I just don't understand why it can't just be Roode and aries and it seems like you could do this whole storyline without making it about the belt being given up


Giving up the belt shows that Aries feels that he deserves to be in the main event, that he is ready to be the number 1 guy... If he wasn't confident in his abilities, he would simply keep the kayfabe money and prestige that comes with the X-Division title.

If you don't have to give anything up, there is no real risk in taking a shot at the World Title because who knows... maybe you get a lucky punch in or something and win... If you don't oh well, no big deal, I'm still the X-Division Champ.

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Then why do the belt angle I just don't understand why it can't just be Roode and aries and it seems like you could do this whole storyline without making it about the belt being given up


Giving up the belt shows that Aries feels that he deserves to be in the main event, that he is ready to be the number 1 guy... If he wasn't confident in his abilities, he would simply keep the kayfabe money and prestige that comes with the X-Division title.

If you don't have to give anything up, there is no real risk in taking a shot at the World Title because who knows... maybe you get a lucky punch in or something and win... If you don't oh well, no big deal, I'm still the X-Division Champ.


They shouldn't be risk, its not a game show. It should be about confict between the two wrestlers not X-Division title needs to be handed over so you can get a title shot opportunity. For all the people who talk about WWE and their belts, does that mean if D-Von gives up his title shot he deserves a shot?


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For all the people who talk about WWE and their belts, does that mean if D-Von gives up his title shot he deserves a shot?


If they had a TV Title-themed ppv, then yes, I suppose.

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For all the people who talk about WWE and their belts, does that mean if D-Von gives up his title shot he deserves a shot?


If they had a TV Title-themed ppv, then yes, I suppose.

It's called Television.

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Then why do the belt angle I just don't understand why it can't just be Roode and aries and it seems like you could do this whole storyline without making it about the belt being given up


Giving up the belt shows that Aries feels that he deserves to be in the main event, that he is ready to be the number 1 guy... If he wasn't confident in his abilities, he would simply keep the kayfabe money and prestige that comes with the X-Division title.

If you don't have to give anything up, there is no real risk in taking a shot at the World Title because who knows... maybe you get a lucky punch in or something and win... If you don't oh well, no big deal, I'm still the X-Division Champ.


This is what i dont like about this. You have to GIVE up the Xdivision title to prove your ready for the main event. That means that anyone who caries this title, is not main event worthy. Which isn't that the title is supposed to stand for. Me personally i didn't like it. I would have liked it better if he got the title shot at the pay per veiw because he was champion. The way the US title used to be, and the IC title was supposed to be. They can deal with the two champion thing after the fact.

Its like "Im a light Xdivision wrestler! Ive been working my ass off for years polishing a style that is branded by TnA as there xdivision style. Im hoping against all the odds i can win the Xdivision title! So i can throw that peice of garbage away in a barter to be a main event guy instead of an Xdivision guy."


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Then why do the belt angle I just don't understand why it can't just be Roode and aries and it seems like you could do this whole storyline without making it about the belt being given up


Giving up the belt shows that Aries feels that he deserves to be in the main event, that he is ready to be the number 1 guy... If he wasn't confident in his abilities, he would simply keep the kayfabe money and prestige that comes with the X-Division title.

If you don't have to give anything up, there is no real risk in taking a shot at the World Title because who knows... maybe you get a lucky punch in or something and win... If you don't oh well, no big deal, I'm still the X-Division Champ.


They shouldn't be risk, its not a game show. It should be about confict between the two wrestlers not X-Division title needs to be handed over so you can get a title shot opportunity. For all the people who talk about WWE and their belts, does that mean if D-Von gives up his title shot he deserves a shot?


There has always been "risk" in wrestling... there have been "loser leaves town matches", "retirement matches", "Another guy gets your wife/girlfriend matches", "Hair matches", "kiss various parts of another dudes body match", etc...

For some reason that I can't really remember at the moment, Lex Luger had to agree that if he didn't win the title from Yokozuna at SS93 (which is a really good PPV btw) he'd never get another shot again.

Its a part of wrestling.

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Again, you are talking about a different writing team that has been putting together some good shows the past couple of months.

And you don't know what is going to happen the next couple of weeks.

Does everything have to conform to the way you would "Book" it or it's wrong? Or if it isn't the way you see WWE booking it it's wrong? This is how they are doing it, and since you don't watch, you shouldn't even give a shit. (Which we all know you do)


I want TNA succeed, thats what you don't get. I just won't blindly blow them when they are setting themselves up for failure and I'm not talking about a different writing team. TNA's writing team created a suprise on Thursday and how did that go? They booked one of the worst swerves and storylines in the past two years which for TNA is saying a lot.

Heres is what I do know, now the storyline isn't Austin Aries is stepping up to take on Robert Roode and Roode mocks him or whatever. The stoyrline is Hulk Hogan is making him give up his title to challenge Robert Roode. So your conflict is about giving up a belt, not the actual feud. I also know that this big angle which should deliver an actual watchable Main Event opened Impact so AJ and Dixie could run the worst storyline of the year and you could throw 8 short matches.


You have a strange way of showing you want TNA to succeed. Yeah, they have a shitty angle going on right now, makes them no different that any other wrestling company. And lets face it, that wasn't the worst swerve they have pulled in the last two years. The "They" angle comes to mind.

That story-line could be looked at a few different ways. As a fan, it's a good angle. As someone who really doesn't watch and just reads results, it may seem like that. And c'mon both companies have opened shows with PPV quality matches. It seems to be the norm now.

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This is what i dont like about this. You have to GIVE up the Xdivision title to prove your ready for the main event. That means that anyone who caries this title, is not main event worthy. Which isn't that the title is supposed to stand for. Me personally i didn't like it. I would have liked it better if he got the title shot at the pay per veiw because he was champion. The way the US title used to be, and the IC title was supposed to be. They can deal with the two champion thing after the fact.

Its like "Im a light Xdivision wrestler! Ive been working my ass off for years polishing a style that is branded by TnA as there xdivision style. Im hoping against all the odds i can win the Xdivision title! So i can throw that peice of garbage away in a barter to be a main event guy instead of an Xdivision guy."


I think this is a valid criticism of the storyline. I personally don't agree with it, but I can see how others can.

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You have a strange way of showing you want TNA to succeed. Yeah, they have a shitty angle going on right now, makes them no different that any other wrestling company. And lets face it, that wasn't the worst swerve they have pulled in the last two years. The "They" angle comes to mind.

That story-line could be looked at a few different ways. As a fan, it's a good angle. As someone who really doesn't watch and just reads results, it may seem like that. And c'mon both companies have opened shows with PPV quality matches. It seems to be the norm now.


Dude I don't care about your butt hurt get over it

and TT right that it does devalue the title


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You have a strange way of showing you want TNA to succeed. Yeah, they have a shitty angle going on right now, makes them no different that any other wrestling company. And lets face it, that wasn't the worst swerve they have pulled in the last two years. The "They" angle comes to mind.

That story-line could be looked at a few different ways. As a fan, it's a good angle. As someone who really doesn't watch and just reads results, it may seem like that. And c'mon both companies have opened shows with PPV quality matches. It seems to be the norm now.


Dude I don't care about your butt hurt get over it

and TT right that it does devalue the title


What the fuck are you talking about "Butt Hurt"? Do you steal all of Reality's phrases? Try to be original at least...I thought you were smarter than that. Seriously dude, you're losing your shit.

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For all the criticism that XT throws at me about talking about anuses (unwarranted), he and Reality have this obsession with "butts." I never see them use it referencing a female though..... only use virgins of the Headyverse.

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What the fuck are you talking about "Butt Hurt"? Do you steal all of Reality's phrases? Try to be original at least...I thought you were smarter than that. Seriously dude, you're losing your shit.

first I used the phrase before him secondly, I stole that from Wrestleview radio, thirdly seriously stop being so butt hurt you act like you get paid by TNA

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For all the criticism that XT throws at me about talking about anuses (unwarranted), he and Reality have this obsession with "butts." I never see them use it referencing a female though..... only use virgins of the Headyverse.


First off, You used Butt Hurt two days ago you fucking moron and secondly I know you saw that and felt like you just had ot make a reference towards because you thought yes, something finally clears my obsession with male buttsex.


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Reality used to just be a second rate XT. Now XT is ripping off the guy who ripped him off. Talk about being a hack.

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Duane used to be a second rate Jobes and NOS now he's just second rate


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xtremefalls43 wrote:
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What the fuck are you talking about "Butt Hurt"? Do you steal all of Reality's phrases? Try to be original at least...I thought you were smarter than that. Seriously dude, you're losing your shit.

first I used the phrase before him secondly, I stole that from Wrestleview radio, thirdly seriously stop being so butt hurt you act like you get paid by TNA

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For all the criticism that XT throws at me about talking about anuses (unwarranted), he and Reality have this obsession with "butts." I never see them use it referencing a female though..... only use virgins of the Headyverse.


First off, You used Butt Hurt two days ago you fucking moron and secondly I know you saw that and felt like you just had ot make a reference towards because you thought yes, something finally clears my obsession with male buttsex.


Yeah, you're losing your mind...no doubt.

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Can someome just call out a champion on open fight night? If so why would you want to be in the bound for glory tournament? The Champion has to defend his title once a month i think? If so and those 12 guys dont compete, i think i would rather not be in the tournament, it would up my odds of a title match. Its almost like, for the next 4 months no one in the tournament should get a shot at the title, or it makes the tournament less important. It kinda applies to the X division guys to. If any of them get a title shot, and they dont have the belt, then thats kind of silly to. I dunno im thinking to hard about this i think. I just dont understand it maybe. Then again im not the brightest bulb in the drawyer.


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Can someome just call out a champion on open fight night? If so why would you want to be in the bound for glory tournament? The Champion has to defend his title once a month i think? If so and those 12 guys dont compete, i think i would rather not be in the tournament, it would up my odds of a title match. Its almost like, for the next 4 months no one in the tournament should get a shot at the title, or it makes the tournament less important. It kinda applies to the X division guys to. If any of them get a title shot, and they dont have the belt, then thats kind of silly to. I dunno im thinking to hard about this i think. I just dont understand it maybe. Then again im not the brightest bulb in the drawyer.


I think you can call out the champion if you would like... doesn't make it a title match.

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Can someome just call out a champion on open fight night? If so why would you want to be in the bound for glory tournament? The Champion has to defend his title once a month i think? If so and those 12 guys dont compete, i think i would rather not be in the tournament, it would up my odds of a title match. Its almost like, for the next 4 months no one in the tournament should get a shot at the title, or it makes the tournament less important. It kinda applies to the X division guys to. If any of them get a title shot, and they dont have the belt, then thats kind of silly to. I dunno im thinking to hard about this i think. I just dont understand it maybe. Then again im not the brightest bulb in the drawyer.


I think you can call out the champion if you would like... doesn't make it a title match.


you think or you know? I mean in Terry's point don't you think all these goofy concepts are catching up to them now?


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