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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:24 am 
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Covering the entire life of the stable…

- WWE is reportedly at work on a home video release focusing on the NWO. The release is scheduled for November and will document the stable from its inception in the 1990s all the way through its reformation in WWE in the 2000s.

Credit: WWE DVD News

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on the one had i think i'm sick of those guys but i bet i will always mark out ffor them. i mean the clique boys; never marked out for hogan never will


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We have learned that WWE are currently producing a DVD and Blu-Ray set titled: WWE – New World Order.

The set is on the schedule for release in early November, looking at the New World Order (nWo) and their reign over WCW in the late 1990′s and WWE in the early 2000′s.

This won’t be the first DVD set which WWE have produced on the group “nWo Back in Black” was released in 2002 and featured a documentary with a handful of moments and matches.

We will have more details on this set in the coming weeks. Stay tuned.

A little while ago, in ‘fantasy concept‘ we took a look at how we’d like a New World Order set to turn out, will it look like this?

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http://www.wwedvdnews.com/wwe-nwo-new-w ... 012/25001/

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:00 am 
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Why would they do this? The nWo was the worst stable of all time and a total flop. The only time it was ever good was the two weeks Shawn Micheals was in it.

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Pickn this one up for sure. I just started to REALLY watch wrestling in 1996 right before the inception of the nWo. Both WCW & WWF were at the top of their games. No DVD package can properly ever capture how awesome it was to see all this unfold for the first time, week in & week out. I was the right age, right time, to be hooked forever. Dubya ran the nWo angle into the ground awesomely lol & I miss the train wreck that was WCW. Everybody was talking about wrestling then. It was chaos tv & featured some of the best wrestlers of any era period. From the midcard to the top, all aces.


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Yes im so there , im such a hugh NWO mark i got to get this.

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Seriously The NWO is probably the most overrated thing in wrestling over the past 20 years, while it helped WCW rise it also helped handicap it to die off, and had a very short run of success


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Yeah, those 83 weeks that WCW dominated WWF (With NWO as a main focus) was just a short run for them... :roll: They may have been part of the end of WCW, but 1996-2001 isn't exactly a short run of success.

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Yeah, those 83 weeks that WCW dominated WWF (With NWO as a main focus) was just a short run for them... :roll: They may have been part of the end of WCW, but 1996-2001 isn't exactly a short run of success.


um when you go out of business because you lost 68 million dollars in 2000 and 15 in 1999 that is not successful.

so yeah 1996-1998 was very successful. I don't deny that, even though the early business success of the stable is a little over estimated they werer still successful. The problem is when you look beyond that They ran over everyone so by the time people were getting bored with them you had no heros to slay them, Giant, Luger, Steiners, Flair, Horsemen, everyone had been defeated and basically left useless because of the way they were booked and used. Also in doing so that huge build up to Sting vs. Hogan led to the problem that once Sting got past Hogan and that awful non-finish finish at Starrcade 97 Sting was basically standing their with his ass exposed because throughout that Build up to Hogan vs. Sting they forgot to build up heels to have Sting wrestle.

The problem with the NWO is once you got past the bullshit there wasn't much there as a whole the whole storyline of taking over the company was never really utilized, the who's going to join the NWO got old real quick, They burned out The Wolfpac split and put people in spots theys houldn't have been in, and by the time you do the Finger Poke of Doom and NWO 2000 groups the fans just didn't care anymore. Its great they had a run but if you go back and watch the Hart Foundation angles in WWF at the time they were much more entertaining as a whole


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Boxman wrote:
Yeah, those 83 weeks that WCW dominated WWF (With NWO as a main focus) was just a short run for them... :roll: They may have been part of the end of WCW, but 1996-2001 isn't exactly a short run of success.


um when you go out of business because you lost 68 million dollars in 2000 and 15 in 1999 that is not successful.

so yeah 1996-1998 was very successful. I don't deny that, even though the early business success of the stable is a little over estimated they werer still successful. The problem is when you look beyond that They ran over everyone so by the time people were getting bored with them you had no heros to slay them, Giant, Luger, Steiners, Flair, Horsemen, everyone had been defeated and basically left useless because of the way they were booked and used. Also in doing so that huge build up to Sting vs. Hogan led to the problem that once Sting got past Hogan and that awful non-finish finish at Starrcade 97 Sting was basically standing their with his ass exposed because throughout that Build up to Hogan vs. Sting they forgot to build up heels to have Sting wrestle.

The problem with the NWO is once you got past the bullshit there wasn't much there as a whole the whole storyline of taking over the company was never really utilized, the who's going to join the NWO got old real quick, They burned out The Wolfpac split and put people in spots theys houldn't have been in, and by the time you do the Finger Poke of Doom and NWO 2000 groups the fans just didn't care anymore. Its great they had a run but if you go back and watch the Hart Foundation angles in WWF at the time they were much more entertaining as a whole


Ok, so forget all the other bullshit you threw in there. Is 2 years considered a short run of success? If so, you have a warped sense of short.

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Boxman wrote:
Ok, so forget all the other bullshit you threw in there. Is 2 years considered a short run of success? If so, you have a warped sense of short.


Yeah forget bullshit like a storyline that lead to huge booking flaws and likely had a huge hand in killing your company.

However in terms of being a top draw for a company for an extend period? yeah 2 weeks is pretty short. Hogan's first WWE run for example was 10 years, Austin was what 1998-2002ish, Cena has been now about 6 or 7, Flair was a top draw for a long period of time, these are just one guys, when you have a stable that is on Television during the hottest period in Cable Wrestling history a 2 year run where they rised, peaked, and fell is a pretty quick time period


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xtremefalls43 wrote:
Boxman wrote:
Ok, so forget all the other bullshit you threw in there. Is 2 years considered a short run of success? If so, you have a warped sense of short.


Yeah forget bullshit like a storyline that lead to huge booking flaws and likely had a huge hand in killing your company.

However in terms of being a top draw for a company for an extend period? yeah 2 weeks is pretty short. Hogan's first WWE run for example was 10 years, Austin was what 1998-2002ish, Cena has been now about 6 or 7, Flair was a top draw for a long period of time, these are just one guys, when you have a stable that is on Television during the hottest period in Cable Wrestling history a 2 year run where they rised, peaked, and fell is a pretty quick time period


If in your mind 2 years (Which I think NWO had a much longer run) is a short run, there is no reason to continue this. If you consider Zack Ryder getting a 3 month push, and think a minimum of 2 years is a short run...We got nothing to talk about. That's insanity

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your trying talk about a run a push there is a difference, and the reality is your avoiding point of what I said and your trying to take something about a tiem frame and avoid the point. Which is the NWo while a very sucessful angle in the short run really killed them in the long run and probably helped set WCW up for their demise


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I am losing some interest in the message board unfortunately. I usually look forward to getting on my phone and checking it out a few times a day. Anymore, though, every thread develops into a monotonous argument. Anyway, I look forward to the N-dub release. I got back into wrestling just before it all went down, and remember watching it all play out. At that time, I pretty much watched Dub-C all the time and only caught Dub-E every once in awhile. I loved Hall and Nash, but remember thinking Hogan looked pretty rough. It was definitely a long successful angle. There was a long stretch toward the end where the whole thing became a redundant parody of itself though too.

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I am losing some interest in the message board unfortunately. I usually look forward to getting on my phone and checking it out a few times a day. Anymore, though, every thread develops into a monotonous argument. Anyway, I look forward to the N-dub release. I got back into wrestling just before it all went down, and remember watching it all play out. At that time, I pretty much watched Dub-C all the time and only caught Dub-E every once in awhile. I loved Hall and Nash, but remember thinking Hogan looked pretty rough. It was definitely a long successful angle. There was a long stretch toward the end where the whole thing became a redundant parody of itself though too.


I agree with my fellow Chef in the overall gist of his post.

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it would be funny if they had every nWo member as a talking head in the dvd Vincent/ Stevie Ray, / Horace Hogan/ Mike Rotunda/ Scott Norton/ Buff Bagwell / Scott Steiner/ Sting/ Lex Luger/ Disco Inferno/ Konnan/Bret Hart/ Ted Tibiase/ Scott Hall/ Kevin Nash/ Hulk Hogan + tHE nWo Japan Stable

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The NWO and WCW got me back into wrestling full-time in 1996. I'll never forget ordering Bash at the Beach '96.... a landmark day for me as a fan. I remember being pissed off that Hogan turned heel but in a kayfabe way. The NWO was born and we were all off with the races after that post interview with Mean Gene and Hogan. The fans went nuts... huge heat and man, that was one heck of a night in Daytona Beach. I'm glad that this DVD will be released. I hope it's a documentary mostly.

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creatively nwo was a success . as a fan that's all you should be measure . did it's luster fade over time. yes; but all lusters do. the finnancial problems of wcw went far deeper than any of us will ever know and far deeper than the nwo


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I thought the NWO stuff made for some interesting TV at least till the end of 1997.
I'm all for a new DVD, though I wouldn't count on any recent Scott Hall interview footage.


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xtremefalls43 wrote:
your trying talk about a run a push there is a difference, and the reality is your avoiding point of what I said and your trying to take something about a tiem frame and avoid the point. Which is the NWo while a very sucessful angle in the short run really killed them in the long run and probably helped set WCW up for their demise


Weren't you like 8 years old when all this stuff was going on with NWO? I'm not even taking you seriously anymore.

You are arguing a point, which I already agreed with you on, I said they were part of what brought WCW down, but they certainly had a long successful run. If you think different, fine. No need to argue. I'll bet if I took a poll, hardly anyone would say it was a a short run.

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Steve Austin wasn't champion until 98. Then he got injured before the end of 99. What a fucking failure.

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nW--what.?
WCWhat?
i dont remember any of this
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WCW didn't make an annual profit until the NWO came alone. People tend to forget that despite the NWO's obvious faults after a 2 year run, but as mentioned before, WCW's financial problems run far deep than any negative the NWO caused creatively.

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luditesupreme wrote:
creatively nwo was a success . as a fan that's all you should be measure . did it's luster fade over time. yes; but all lusters do. the finnancial problems of wcw went far deeper than any of us will ever know and far deeper than the nwo


But how was it a creative success? If you look at it under the guise of what they were supposed to be there wasn't that much creativity in what they did. Every storyline just became how dominate they were, who's joining, and power struggles between Hogan and someone else. If it was a Creative success it would have led to more success


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