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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:59 pm 
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- Well Scott Steiner has company in regards to attacking TNA on Twitter. Sean Waltman has joined in on the act, addressing TNA's Dixie Carter with these comments…

"@TNADixie Highly disappointed with you as a person who claims to care. More disappointed in your handling of the only alternative to WWE @TNADixie Been meaning to tell you that since your Co. tried to make it look like I no showed your PPV. Im just sick of @TNADixie running around playing this benevolent role, when it's a facade. @TNADixie BTW Congrats on hiring Bruce Pritchard. Perfect fit . One of the biggest lowlifes in the business. Treats ppl like sh** if he can Mark my words TNA will be a part of WWE's video catalog before the decade is up."

A fan responded to Waltman, saying that if he wasn't a "boozer and a fool", he might still be employed by TNA, Waltman responded with the following…

"@TNADixie Had nothing to do with it. Plus are u serious w/ the crew they have there. Plus, I am sober & never cared 4 booze."

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:56 am 
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Why would they even want the video library?


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:58 am 
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X-pac is dumb. Don't they know the WWE is going to be out of business next year? Just ask the internet!


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there have been some highlights they might want i hope for the sake of what's left of wrestling they don't get it any time soon . monopolys are destructive non of us should wish for them as fans ; no matter which siede we thin we're on . i don't think they are good for the wrestlers either.


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there have been some highlights they might want i hope for the sake of what's left of wrestling they don't get it any time soon . monopolys are destructive non of us should wish for them as fans ; no matter which siede we thin we're on . i don't think they are good for the wrestlers either.

They'd mainly want it for who's wrestled for them.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 9:56 am 
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You'd think TNA would have to pay WWE to get rid of their Vince Russo years back catalogue. Though, it would be cool to see Don West's enthusiasm over at Shop WWE.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 10:42 am 
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Afro wrote:
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there have been some highlights they might want i hope for the sake of what's left of wrestling they don't get it any time soon . monopolys are destructive non of us should wish for them as fans ; no matter which siede we thin we're on . i don't think they are good for the wrestlers either.

They'd mainly want it for who's wrestled for them.

i don't dispute that ; i was assuming for them to get that catalog tna would have to go out business ; that was where my focus was


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Oh lord, another "TNA will be going out of business " prediction ...Not happening, folks..


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um that power company may eventually get tired of fronting a failing business or better yet The Carters may i don't know die or Spike TV may change directions


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um that power company may eventually get tired of fronting a failing business or better yet The Carters may i don't know die or Spike TV may change directions


The power company is owned by Dixies parents, doubt they will get rid off TNA and Im sure TNA is nothing to them. If the Carters die wouldnt they give the company to Dixie?Spike have announced they are going live and have signed a deal? I doubt they will change

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:07 pm 
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The Nikhil wrote:
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um that power company may eventually get tired of fronting a failing business or better yet The Carters may i don't know die or Spike TV may change directions


The power company is owned by Dixies parents, doubt they will get rid off TNA and Im sure TNA is nothing to them. If the Carters die wouldnt they give the company to Dixie?Spike have announced they are going live and have signed a deal? I doubt they will change


Your assuming but it depends on the corporation, and WCW in 1995 thought because Ted Turner was their owner there was no way they'd ever be shut down. guess what things happen. If I remeber correctly they have stock holders and or a board of directors at Panda Energy, if something financially goes down or pubicaly something embarrassing happens do you think there going to keep it going? If TNA wasn't already in finanacial trouble do you think Janice Carter wouldn't have taken over the finances


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Let me add...It wouldnt shock me if WWE winds up owning TNA's library by the end of the decade...If anything, I'd probably bet they would..As of right now, TNA has lasted 3 yrs longer than ECW did..The wrestling business as a whole is stagnant,and I dont see any major resurgence on the horizon like the mid-late 90's..... so would it be a big stunner if 5 yrs from now, a marginal, distant #2 company like TNA winds up being sold? Nope.

But to say right now that TNA is on the verge of dying ,by the Carter's own hands, (like all their detractors have been saying for years), is just silly. If the Carters were gonna pull the plug, they wouldve done it some time ago.

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Lasting longer than ECW isn't really a big deal. All of the major indy promotions have been around longer than ECW was.

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xtremefalls43 wrote:
The Nikhil wrote:
xtremefalls43 wrote:
um that power company may eventually get tired of fronting a failing business or better yet The Carters may i don't know die or Spike TV may change directions


The power company is owned by Dixies parents, doubt they will get rid off TNA and Im sure TNA is nothing to them. If the Carters die wouldnt they give the company to Dixie?Spike have announced they are going live and have signed a deal? I doubt they will change


Your assuming but it depends on the corporation, and WCW in 1995 thought because Ted Turner was their owner there was no way they'd ever be shut down. guess what things happen. If I remeber correctly they have stock holders and or a board of directors at Panda Energy, if something financially goes down or pubicaly something embarrassing happens do you think there going to keep it going? If TNA wasn't already in finanacial trouble do you think Janice Carter wouldn't have taken over the finances


Panda is private, you have no idea what happens behind the scenes. As the Carters own the company Im postive they will not get ousted from power. Thats just dreaming. TNA have had some bad things happen to them over the years that have been bad but the backers are still with them?

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TNA should be embarrassed their not further along ECW made a much bigger mark with less star power, money, promotion, and a TV network


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Team Ninja wrote:
Lasting longer than ECW isn't really a big deal. All of the major indy promotions have been around longer than ECW was.


Yeah but indies dont have National TV , PPV, (I dont count ippv) , video games, action figures, etc...Both ECW and TNA have had these things..And ECW had a fanbase 10x as loyal as TNA's, so for them to last this long is a pretty big deal.

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TNA should be embarrassed their not further along ECW made a much bigger mark with less star power, money, promotion, and a TV network


Your hate for TNA a wrestling company that has no effect on you whatsoever is worrying.

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xtremefalls43 wrote:
TNA should be embarrassed their not further along ECW made a much bigger mark with less star power, money, promotion, and a TV network


You left out the fact that ECW made their mark during the absolute peak of the business, when twice as many people were watching wrestling compared to now. That kinda helped.

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TNA should be embarrassed their not further along ECW made a much bigger mark with less star power, money, promotion, and a TV network


ECW made its mark in an era where wrestling was hot, the business needed that change at that time. You really can't compare the two.

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I don't know how many Carter children there are... but since it is a private company, I would assume Dixie would get it (or split it with family) if her parents were to pass.

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Team Ninja wrote:
Lasting longer than ECW isn't really a big deal. All of the major indy promotions have been around longer than ECW was.


Yeah but indies dont have National TV , PPV, (I dont count ippv) , video games, action figures, etc...Both ECW and TNA have had these things


I would argue all that stuff was the downfall of the company. They tried to grow too fast. I remember Gabe saying back in the day that he would hesitant about any kind of TV deal for ROH because that's a big part of what killed ECW.

But then again that was probably the right way to do it if you want to be remembered fondly. ECW was Kurt Cobain or Andy Kaufman. They did some insane and ground breaking stuff and then died before they started to embarrass themselves. That's the best way to leave a legacy.

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Lasting longer than ECW isn't really a big deal. All of the major indy promotions have been around longer than ECW was.


Yeah but indies dont have National TV , PPV, (I dont count ippv) , video games, action figures, etc...Both ECW and TNA have had these things


I would argue all that stuff was the downfall of the company. They tried to grow too fast. I remember Gabe saying back in the day that he would hesitant about any kind of TV deal for ROH because that's a big part of what killed ECW.

But then again that was probably the right way to do it if you want to be remembered fondly. ECW was Kurt Cobain or Andy Kaufman. They did some insane and ground breaking stuff and then died before they started to embarrass themselves. That's the best way to leave a legacy.


Well put, very well put.


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Team Ninja wrote:
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Lasting longer than ECW isn't really a big deal. All of the major indy promotions have been around longer than ECW was.


Yeah but indies dont have National TV , PPV, (I dont count ippv) , video games, action figures, etc...Both ECW and TNA have had these things


I would argue all that stuff was the downfall of the company. They tried to grow too fast. I remember Gabe saying back in the day that he would hesitant about any kind of TV deal for ROH because that's a big part of what killed ECW.

But then again that was probably the right way to do it if you want to be remembered fondly. ECW was Kurt Cobain or Andy Kaufman. They did some insane and ground breaking stuff and then died before they started to embarrass themselves. That's the best way to leave a legacy.


True.. The TV deal especially really sunk ECW. They were a shooting star for sure

7 ECW years > 70 TNA years

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theultimatebeef wrote:
xtremefalls43 wrote:
TNA should be embarrassed their not further along ECW made a much bigger mark with less star power, money, promotion, and a TV network


You left out the fact that ECW made their mark during the absolute peak of the business, when twice as many people were watching wrestling compared to now. That kinda helped.


So a regional promotion that aired at 10pm on Saturday Night for an hour and sometimes even later on some bumble fuck network and remeber I live right outside PHiladelphia benefited from the industry being hot? Yeah good luck with that stupid theory. TNA's failures to garner an audience is a pretty simple beast. They go after a fanbase that is unpleasable, they don't understand booking, and they have a roster full of useless talents. ECW made its mark becasue it did something different than the other two promotions at the time and when they started growing WCW and WWE were not hot yet and they ran with different type of chracters and angles and it clicks with a certain portion of the audience.

There two different concepts TNA is a promotions that half the time I wonder isn't a huge scam and doesn't even understand what the fuck their doing and ECW was a promotion understanding the timing, roster, and fans they had and grew into something that got over.


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TNA (and ROH for that matter) should be doing a better job at hyping up their "10th Anniversary." For any wrestling company to last this long that's non-WWE during this era of professional wrestling is an accomplishment worth celebrating and acknowledging. They've both grown and come a long way since their inceptions despite the positive or negative feeling one might have for them.

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