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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:35 am 
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i think its a cool idea, and austin ares is a great wrestler. it could have been "set-up" better, but I liked that segment between Ares and Roode on Impact

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and thats my point though Afro they have no history and TNA makes no attempt to create it anymore. I mean I think in this thread alone I came up with at least 3 storylines TNA could have run that were simple but got the same point across without having to play Deal or No Deal on Television and its becoming a habit where everything is based around gameshow reasoning for these matches and not actually creating a feud with real conflict between them


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Well you say he should call Roode out but if they have no history together, what is Aries going to say that will make Roode say I need to defend my against this guy? You complain when TNA throws out a random Number 1 contenders match, and when they have some sort of thin reasoning behind someone getting a shot that works and makes sense you still find a problem with it.

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Well you say he should call Roode out but if they have no history together, what is Aries going to say that will make Roode say I need to defend my against this guy? You complain when TNA throws out a random Number 1 contenders match, and when they have some sort of thin reasoning behind someone getting a shot that works and makes sense you still find a problem with it.


Well I'd say Aries has won multiple matches over the past couple of weeks have him come out and say that and say Destination X is about The X-Division and as Champion I want to make a mark at this show, yada yada yada blows X-Division's competitors and say to do this I want to be the first man in TNA to go in as X-Division Champion and leave with both the X-Division Championship and TNA Championship. Robert Roode comes out does a promo about who the hell is he to deserve a title shot against him, Aries does the old man hood challenge and Roode puts out an impossible challenge for him tonight say if you beat so and so or you beat me in 10 minutes, or set them up in a tag Team Match where Aries gets the victory and overcomes the odds he'll get a match at Destination X. Aries wins Roode goes balistic, Roode calls it a fluke, and Aries and him go from there for four weeks or whatever and hopefully by Destination X you have a strong rebel Babyface in Aries and an obnoxious douche heel Champion who fans want to see get his ass kicked.

There ya go that seems like it builds up a feud, conflict, and purpose in one tiny Impact


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i dont see it as a major deal because WWE makes shit up on the fly all the time... RAW is booked on the fly it seems half the time.

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Well I'd say Aries has won multiple matches over the past couple of weeks have him come out and say that and say Destination X is about The X-Division and as Champion I want to make a mark at this show, yada yada yada blows X-Division's competitors and say to do this I want to be the first man in TNA to go in as X-Division Champion and leave with both the X-Division Championship and TNA Championship. Robert Roode comes out does a promo about who the hell is he to deserve a title shot against him, Aries does the old man hood challenge and Roode puts out an impossible challenge for him tonight say if you beat so and so or you beat me in 10 minutes, or set them up in a tag Team Match where Aries gets the victory and overcomes the odds he'll get a match at Destination X. Aries wins Roode goes balistic, Roode calls it a fluke, and Aries and him go from there for four weeks or whatever and hopefully by Destination X you have a strong rebel Babyface in Aries and an obnoxious douche heel Champion who fans want to see get his ass kicked.

There ya go that seems like it builds up a feud, conflict, and purpose in one tiny Impact

Angle and Joe have already done the hold all belts thing, But you have yet to bridge the gap of why Roode SHOULD give someone who has no association a shot at his title, you have skipped right through to Roode being GM for the night, you have yet to explain why this would make sense that a Heel champion would willingly give someone a shot without there being any kind of catch.

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Angle and Joe have already done the hold all belts thing, But you have yet to bridge the gap of why Roode SHOULD give someone who has no association a shot at his title, you have skipped right through to Roode being GM for the night, you have yet to explain why this would make sense that a Heel champion would willingly give someone a shot without there being any kind of catch.


The whole challenging of the manhood part of the promo would be the reason, or its a simple fix of having your GM/CEO/President Hulk Hogan come out and say you know Robert I'm going to give this guy a shot, Roode protest and you bounce into it.

As for Angle and Joe that was in a all belts clusterfuck match that quiet frankly I don't think anyone cares about, even so you put your two main Singles titles up you build it off that. Its still special to be the only man to truly be an X-Division guy and hold both titles at the same time


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yeah i can see XT's point, that the feud has no story, but since this isn't about a huge story/feud to begin with, like say AJ & Dixie vs Daniels & Kaz, just the idea that Ares would think he is a world title contender would be an affront to Roode, but whatever, its pretty minor shit, considering no one watches TNA anyways lol

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A Heel champ shouldn't give a competitor a shot because they challenged his manhood unless his character is completely built around that which Roode's isn't, and Hogan just giving Aries a shot is basically what they're doing now, which begs the question of why you dislike this idea so much.

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Afro wrote:
A Heel champ shouldn't give a competitor a shot because they challenged his manhood unless his character is completely built around that which Roode's isn't, and Hogan just giving Aries a shot is basically what they're doing now, which begs the question of why you dislike this idea so much.



Because Hogan is just handing it too him, there is no reason for it. It was just HOgan decided randomly that he wanted to do it. again there is no story behind that, and palying GM stuff by Roode would be different what other storyline in TNA? I've seen them do it many of times. At least that way its based around Aries and Roode not based on Hogan playing Howie Mandel and asking Deal or No Deal.


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No its the same, Aries' cuts a promo which gets to Roode even though they have no prior history and Hogan randomly decides its good enough to warrant a match.

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I like the idea. I don't think it devalues the X-Division Championship in any way. Earlier in the thread, Duane mentioned how this also brings importance to the X-Division Champion during the course of a year. I agree. Aries should want the top championship, and if giving up the X-Division Championship is the only option he has to get a title shot, then he should take it. It's not only putting over the TNA World Heavyweight Championship, but it's also putting over the opportunity to just get a shot at the title. I'm really happy to see TNA continuing to make its top belt seem to be the most important element of the company.

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No its the same, Aries' cuts a promo which gets to Roode even though they have no prior history and Hogan randomly decides its good enough to warrant a match.


Which does what Afro.........creates a reason to do it. Instead of Roode all but being irrelevant in creating the match and it being again about a Political decision by Hogan and playing Deal or No Deal.


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How is it not a political decision when Aries is spouting his mouth on the microphone, Roode wants to stop him talking and Hogan grants him the match? it's the same story with just a little mic speak at the beginning.

You haven't demonstrated why Roode who's a Heel should shut Aries up by offering him a Title shot through your story idea, that violates Heel 101.

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How is it not a political decision when Aries is spouting his mouth on the microphone, Roode wants to stop him talking and Hogan grants him the match? it's the same story with just a little mic speak at the beginning.

You haven't demonstrated why Roode who's a Heel should shut Aries up by offering him a Title shot through your story idea, that violates Heel 101.


He can earn it, that was the point of having him run a gauntlet, or do a handicap match, or win some sort of Tag team match. Its called building up your challenger. Or better yet and heres an idea Roode could just give him the match because he thinks Aries is a nobody and couldn't give him a challenge. He could be his night off from facing a legit challenger but aries actually takes him to the limit.

and even with HOgan just deciding to do it at least its based on something aries did not just some randon decision by Hulk Hogan. Also lets stop being difficult because every Promotion for years has had heel champions grant matches. Regardless I've come up with multiple senerios that are based around Aries and Roode and not Hogan and game show booking


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You still have yet to bridge the gap as to why Roode needs to give Aries a shot at the belt, and once more you throw in another scenario which involves degrading the X Division which isn't good for the championship and neither is it smart booking.

"HOgan just deciding to do it at least its based on something aries did not just some randon decision by Hulk Hogan."
IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE FUCKING DOING!!!!

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You still have yet to bridge the gap as to why Roode needs to give Aries a shot at the belt, and once more you throw in another scenario which involves degrading the X Division which isn't good for the championship and neither is it smart booking.

"HOgan just deciding to do it at least its based on something aries did not just some randon decision by Hulk Hogan."
IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE FUCKING DOING!!!!


No its based of Hulk Hogan right now walking out and saying I'm offering you a title shot if you give up the X-Division Championship, its not based on Aries coming out and saying I deserve to be here.

and for Roode he doesn't need to. its to appeaes his ego, if you go with the route of him claiming Aries is in his league he does it to take a title defense(whichin theory he knows he has to defend the Championship every pay per view) he thinks he'll have a easy match, if you go the Aries wanting the X-Division Championship and TNA CHampionship route Roode does it because someone is challenging his ego that they are the best champion in the company, and at the end of the day if you book the match right which for TNA is asking a lot but Aries almost wins but Roode steals a victory in the end Aries looks like a big deal, Roode continues his run as stealing victories he shouldn't, and you can both on to better things


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No its based of Hulk Hogan right now walking out and saying I'm offering you a title shot if you give up the X-Division Championship, its not based on Aries coming out and saying I deserve to be here.


To be fair, you don't watch the show... so you probably wouldn't know, but Aries did make the point that he was tired of his position on the card and the slow pace of his movement upwards. He said that no matter what match he was in, he was the main event and needed to be recognized as such... That is when the Hulkster came down and said that if he really wanted to be the top guy, he'd have to give up the life preserver of the X-Division title and try to grab the brass ring.

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Does anyone know if Destination X is going to be like last year? Devoted to the X-Division and bringing back the 6 sided ring? They should off done that winner gets a contract match again, the match Aries won last year.

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Does anyone know if Destination X is going to be like last year? Devoted to the X-Division and bringing back the 6 sided ring? They should off done that winner gets a contract match again, the match Aries won last year.


If I'm not mistaken, the six sided ring is now only used for the Destination-X PPV only. So, yeah I think they'll roll it out.

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He's keeping it until the PPV...

-Austin Aries wrote on Twitter, providing an update on the status of the X Division title. He wrote: "To be clear: I will vacate my X-Division Championship for a shot at the TNA World Heavyweight Championship at Destination X. HOWEVER.... I will officially keep my (X Division) title until July 8th, the day of the PPV, to keep my collateral and guard against being left empty handed......if shenanigans try to prevent my World Title shot, like @REALBobbyRoode catching Chickenpox or excessively pulling his groin until blind."

The post was later retweeted by the official TNA account.

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No its based of Hulk Hogan right now walking out and saying I'm offering you a title shot if you give up the X-Division Championship, its not based on Aries coming out and saying I deserve to be here.


To be fair, you don't watch the show... so you probably wouldn't know, but Aries did make the point that he was tired of his position on the card and the slow pace of his movement upwards. He said that no matter what match he was in, he was the main event and needed to be recognized as such... That is when the Hulkster came down and said that if he really wanted to be the top guy, he'd have to give up the life preserver of the X-Division title and try to grab the brass ring.


Which makes the point why did Hogan have to come out and say something, Why not Roode?


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He's keeping it until the PPV...

-Austin Aries wrote on Twitter, providing an update on the status of the X Division title. He wrote: "To be clear: I will vacate my X-Division Championship for a shot at the TNA World Heavyweight Championship at Destination X. HOWEVER.... I will officially keep my (X Division) title until July 8th, the day of the PPV, to keep my collateral and guard against being left empty handed......if shenanigans try to prevent my World Title shot, like @REALBobbyRoode catching Chickenpox or excessively pulling his groin until blind."

The post was later retweeted by the official TNA account.


So Why not just have him drop the title do a 8 man tournament and have the finals at the show or something?


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No its based of Hulk Hogan right now walking out and saying I'm offering you a title shot if you give up the X-Division Championship, its not based on Aries coming out and saying I deserve to be here.


To be fair, you don't watch the show... so you probably wouldn't know, but Aries did make the point that he was tired of his position on the card and the slow pace of his movement upwards. He said that no matter what match he was in, he was the main event and needed to be recognized as such... That is when the Hulkster came down and said that if he really wanted to be the top guy, he'd have to give up the life preserver of the X-Division title and try to grab the brass ring.


Which makes the point why did Hogan have to come out and say something, Why not Roode?


Because the Hulkster is the match maker...

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He's keeping it until the PPV...

-Austin Aries wrote on Twitter, providing an update on the status of the X Division title. He wrote: "To be clear: I will vacate my X-Division Championship for a shot at the TNA World Heavyweight Championship at Destination X. HOWEVER.... I will officially keep my (X Division) title until July 8th, the day of the PPV, to keep my collateral and guard against being left empty handed......if shenanigans try to prevent my World Title shot, like @REALBobbyRoode catching Chickenpox or excessively pulling his groin until blind."

The post was later retweeted by the official TNA account.


So Why not just have him drop the title do a 8 man tournament and have the finals at the show or something?


Because they decided to do it this way. And we don't know how it's going to play out going into Destination-X.

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